On this episode, Tom and Michael are joined by Ramzy Baroud and Ilan Pappé, co-editors of the book “Our Vision for Liberation: Engaged Palestinian Leaders and Intellectuals Speak Out.” In their new book, they bring together a diverse group of Palestinian voices – from filmmakers to religious figures to politicians and more – to share their own experiences and perspectives on the way forward for Palestine. We discuss the meaning of Palestinian liberation and decolonization, why the May 2021 uprising continues to be a source of optimism, and whether there’s a growing consensus among Palestinians about the need for a one-state-solution.

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Links from this podcast:

• “Our Vision for Liberation” (Clarity Press 2022), edited by Ramzy Baroud and Ilan Pappé

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